What does it mean to walk the road to liberation when the structures we live within have been shaped by extraction, extermination, and extinction? In this episode, I chat with Dr. Resmaa Menakem and we have a powerful conversation about racialized trauma, truth and reconciliation, kinship care, and the work of tending to our wounds.

We explore trauma zombies, proximity to whiteness, and bodies of culture, considering how trauma lives in our bodies and how colonial structures perpetuate patterns of harm. Resmaa shares insights into extraction, extermination, and extinction as a framework for understanding how colonial structures operate. We reflect on the wounds we carry, the wounds passed down through generations, and the importance of tending to those wounds as part of the work of liberation.

Our conversation also turns toward truth and reconciliation, asking what it means to face the realities of historical and ongoing harm, and how kinship care and collective responsibility can support healing.

What does liberation require of us? What does it mean to care for one another while confronting the structures that perpetuate harm? And how do we begin to create a future rooted in something other than extraction, domination, and extinction?

The road to liberation is not simply a destination. It is an embodied, relational, and collective practice that asks us to face the truth, tend to our wounds, nurture kinship, and remain committed to creating a healing future. This is a conversation about truth, healing, accountability, colonial structures, and the ongoing work of liberation.